My wife and I are buying our first vehicle. We've finally decided on a Kia Rondo. We're going the used route. Today we went to a dealer who was offering a 2009 Kia Rondo, good condition, 73,000km's (not sure how many miles, maybe 50k or so?). Long story short, the list price was 11,900. I tried working him down as much as I could, but I'm not a natural hard-ball negotiator and I have no experience. He came down to 11,400. I told him I'd love to come in at 10,800, and he wasn't sure if he could because "his sales manager has left for the day" (it was after closing so this could be true, but why trust a used car salesman). Essentially, he has to call me tomorrow and my estimate would be that he will counter with 11,000.
So now we're waiting for him to call tomorrow. I took an average of 26 2009 Rondo's in my area with under 100,000 km's and the average price is 10,890. So, naturally, I want him to come down more from 11,000. I'd be happy with 10,500.
1. What's a good strategy to use to get him down to that number? Two things I'm thinking of are "We got an insurance quote and it's higher than we anticipated, I know we said before we'd think about 11k, but now we really need to limit it to 10,500", or the very up-front "hey I did an assessment and 11k is a bit high compared to what's out there. I'd like you to get more in line which means bringing it down to around 10,500?" Do you think either of these sound reasonable?
2. Any good used car-haggling success stories?
3. Any general tips for negotiating?
I've been reading up as much as possible on what to look for and avoid when looking used and I think we're doing a good job so far but the negotiating thing is intimidating, especially because I'm a very honest person so this is just not up my alley.
What would you say to someone who doesn't understand the use of the term feminism?
This person is basically saying that they don't see why the term exists, they question the reasons for singling out one subgroup of people among other groups in a larger group who support equal rights, and basically think it should suffice to say "I support equal rights".
And I'm going in circles here. Help/Opinions/Thoughts?
What are some things that really irrationally piss you off?
Inspired by Ariana Grande's half-up, half-down hairstyle.
I need to keep a land line because my parents are elderly and cannot remember my cell phone number.
I currently have AT&T for local calls and really slow internet for $19/mo.
Today, I will be getting high speed internet through my cable company as part of my condo assessment. I have the option of getting phone from my cable company as well for the same $19/mo. It will cover US long distance and local calls.
I should mention that my RCN cable has been very reliable with only one outage in the past 3 years.
I've not had any problems with my land line phone service from AT&T
What are the advantages/disadvatages to keeping or changing my phone service?
Which is better in an emergency situation?
Which would you choose? Why?
edited to add: Are they taxed differently? Because with taxes the $19 AT&T comes to almost $40.
What is love?
What is hate?
What's the difference?
last night I got really drunk, invited a boy over, we fooled around and stuff, and then we had a super awkward morning.
I don't usually do stuff like that so it's just got me kind of amused.
has this happened to you before? stories?
this question is for people living in ontario
do the HST cheques come in every month still or have they been combined with the quarterly GST cheque?
TQC, I've lost my car keys :( Where could they be?
Update: Found them, they were in the laundry hamper.
What are your plans for the weekend?
Tonight I'm going to a 40th b-day/"congrats on your new job" party. The couple throwing it (in honor of the birthday boy/new job holder) have rented out a restaurant and will be providing a buffet of food and an open bar. Ordinarily when I go to restaurant celebrations, I consider my presence and paying for my own tab to be gift enough.
But...since this is a catered party, I feel like I should bring some sort of host gift. A nice bottle of wine seems appropriate, but I don't know much about wine, and I feel like a bunch of other people will do this too.
What do I dooooo? Am I wrong in thinking that it's probably semi-expected for me to bring something?
I want to kick myself because I just saw that somebody had left a comment for me and I accidentally deleted it before reading it! Is there a trash file somewhere where I can get it back or is it gone forever?
Are there any new sports or hobbies you try? I want to get into biking and maybe try out pickleball once I learn the way of the game and that, kinda looks like ping pong w/o a table but maybe it's more like Idk raquetball or something?
Congratulations! You've just won a million dollars. But there's a catch. Before you can collect, you have to give a million dollars away to complete strangers.
How do you distribute the money?
So I've heard that most women are mezzo sopranos, with sopranos and contraltos being less common. Does anyone know just how common or uncommon each is, like the ratio of mezzo/contralto/soprano in the adult population?
The same with men's voices; most are baritones and tenors and basses are less common. Is the tenor/baritone/bass ratio about the same as the soprano/mezzo/contralto ratio?