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If life begins at conception, then why are we zero days old when we are born?
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[User Picture]From: cordelia_sue
2012-11-21 02:33 am (UTC)

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Some Asian cultures count from conception, or lunar cycles since conception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_age_reckoning
[User Picture]From: handsunderhips
2012-11-21 02:36 am (UTC)

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that explains why some of their female gymnasts in the olympics look about 10....

Edited at 2012-11-21 02:42 am (UTC)
[User Picture]From: 911pleasehold
2012-11-21 06:35 am (UTC)

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lmao
[User Picture]From: hearts_of_hope
2012-11-21 05:12 am (UTC)

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Yup. I have a South Korean friend and I asked her how old she is. She said something like, 'I guess I'm 25 here. But in Korea I am 26'. It's an interesting concept, I had never heard of it before.
[User Picture]From: erroroperator
2012-11-21 06:14 am (UTC)

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That must be so weird to move from somewhere that counts you as one year old when you're born to somewhere that doesn't!
[User Picture]From: catchingspirit
2012-11-21 09:09 am (UTC)

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I was just coming here to say this! I have to admit I don't like being older here ;)
[User Picture]From: un_attra
2012-11-21 02:40 am (UTC)

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I always figured that it was because that being zero days when we are born just meant that's how many days you've lived outside of the womb.
[User Picture]From: scatterbeetle
2012-11-21 02:42 am (UTC)

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The term 'date of birth' would indicate that they count from the date of your birth.
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[User Picture]From: heartsandtarts
2012-11-21 12:39 pm (UTC)

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this
[User Picture]From: tralfamadore
2012-11-21 02:57 am (UTC)

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Because it's called a birthdate. And how many people actually know the exact day they conceive anyway?
[User Picture]From: bdellovibrio
2012-11-21 03:06 am (UTC)

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this
[User Picture]From: saintwithasw0rd
2012-11-21 03:12 am (UTC)

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Not conceive date or life date but birth date.
[User Picture]From: running_jumping
2012-11-21 03:27 am (UTC)

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Thanks to AZ, we now know that life begins 2 weeks before conception. I could be pregnant now!

http://www.examiner.com/article/new-law-arizona-states-pregnancy-begins-two-weeks-before-conception
[User Picture]From: sweetest_sin_78
2012-11-21 03:30 am (UTC)

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...How does that even fucking work? Wow. Extremists.

"With the current law, a woman could still legally have an abortion after that time if it was to “protect the life or health of the woman”. That would no longer be the case with the new law."

If having a child in my womb is going to kill me, I'm SOL?! WTF?! Seriously?!
[User Picture]From: running_jumping
2012-11-21 04:44 am (UTC)

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AZ is a nut house.
[User Picture]From: sblmnldrknss
2012-11-21 03:57 am (UTC)

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Well, that is how pregnancy is counted. It's the most consistent method.
[User Picture]From: wristtattoos
2012-11-21 04:45 am (UTC)

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Fuck AZ, holy shit. A LAW in place? What is the point of said law?
[User Picture]From: sweetest_sin_78
2012-11-21 04:46 am (UTC)

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To prevent later term abortions... at least that's what I gathered from the article.
[User Picture]From: wristtattoos
2012-11-21 04:47 am (UTC)

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Those bastards...seriously. What kind of self-respecting person would ever want to live in that state?
[User Picture]From: sweetest_sin_78
2012-11-21 04:48 am (UTC)

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Pro-life racists would be a huge fan of that state. The law would also outlaw (later) abortions even if they were for the health of the mother.
[User Picture]From: wristtattoos
2012-11-21 04:51 am (UTC)

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Which is a decision left between the mother and doctor! Jesus Christ! This stupid laws pushed back the 'late-term abortion' rule another 2 weeks. So gross.
[User Picture]From: 911pleasehold
2012-11-21 06:37 am (UTC)

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God I wish we'd just let them secede...maybe Mexico will take them in.

Oh, wait, prob not since they've been fucked up and racist to Mexicans and all other people with brown skin.

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[User Picture]From: ellelelle
2012-11-21 06:48 am (UTC)

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I can't begin to understand this.

Does this mean my combined pill is terminating my "pregnancy" before I conceive the baby? Oops..
[User Picture]From: madscience
2012-11-21 03:42 am (UTC)

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It's just a somewhat arbitrary point to count from for legal purposes.
[User Picture]From: sweetest_sin_78
2012-11-21 03:44 am (UTC)

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I just feel like the people who are going to be so gung ho about anti-abortion because "life begins at conception" would scream about changing how we age, too.
[User Picture]From: wristtattoos
2012-11-21 04:44 am (UTC)

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Nah, those people generally don't listen to reason =P
[User Picture]From: fleckerbug
2012-11-21 10:37 am (UTC)

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Why? Abortion is slightly more serious than age.
[User Picture]From: fieryphoenix
2012-11-21 03:51 am (UTC)

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It's the single unambiguous date of the whole process?
[User Picture]From: wristtattoos
2012-11-21 04:43 am (UTC)

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because we call it your BIRTH date?
[User Picture]From: 911pleasehold
2012-11-21 06:35 am (UTC)

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My friend's dad used to always say that he was whatever age + 9 months. He counted from conception. lol so funny because he was totally pro-choice and I can see now how him doing that (adding the 9 months to his age) was somewhat comical. He's funny like that.
[User Picture]From: xtoolchickx
2012-11-21 06:46 am (UTC)

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To pretend we're younger than we actually are.

Not serious. Mostly I don't believe life begins at conception.
[User Picture]From: ellelelle
2012-11-21 06:50 am (UTC)

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I think you'd be one day old when you are born!
[User Picture]From: fleckerbug
2012-11-21 10:36 am (UTC)

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Not all cultures do count birth as 'zero'.

"Life beginning at conception" is neither a fact nor a universal belief.
[User Picture]From: loulita
2012-11-21 10:44 am (UTC)

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Someone should Philosoraptor this.
[User Picture]From: jaelle_n_gilla
2012-11-21 11:51 am (UTC)

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In the olden times, life began at birth, or not even that, it began after baptising. The church never endorsed abortion, but miscarriages were all too common and before a child would cry and breathe they wouldn't recognize it as a potential new member of the club. Also, I think in the middle ages they had no way of knowing when conception really happened until well into the pregnancy. They seem to have changed their views since then.

As a biologist I say life starts at conception. That alone does not mean pro or anti choice. I don't know why activists always get the two mixed up. ;-)
[User Picture]From: mondengel
2012-11-21 10:53 pm (UTC)

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I agree with your last point.