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My mother believes that Obama is "a wolf in sheep's clothing", evil, and will soon bring terrible suffering to y'all.  We aren't American, but if we had been, she said she would have voted for Romney.  I know little about American politics, but it seems to me a strange perspective for her to take.  That being said, she is obsessed with all sorts of conspiracy theories, one of which is that Obama is actually a robot, so..

Is this view of Obama an uncommon one for people to have?

Did you vote for Obama or Romney? Why? 
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[User Picture]From: mikehz
2012-11-11 10:07 pm (UTC)

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Certainly, for super-conservatives, it's not unusual to hold this view of Obama--or any Democrat, for that matter. Part of this is that conservatives are hammered with this sort of rhetoric by certain right-wing radio and TV stations. ]

But, it works both ways, and some liberals take great delight in imagining the very worst of any Republican running for office. Why, Romney wanted to starve the poor and start World War III! He would have turned control of the government over to Salt Lake City!
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 10:39 pm (UTC)

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Great, my mother is a super-conservative :/ This I find hard to comprehend, seeing as we are in no way rich or well-off. It's probably due to the combination of her obsession with conspiracy theories and the fact that she has no concept of what life as an ordinary American citizen under a right wing government would actually be like.
[User Picture]From: noodledays
2012-11-11 10:09 pm (UTC)

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I think the view of Obama as a robot is pretty uncommon. him being seen as the "anti-christ", a devil or muslim plant isn't as uncommon as it should be imo. your mom seems to be in the minority for many non-US residents, which makes me feel a bit better.

I voted for Obama because Romney and especially Ryan scared the hell out of me as far as what they might do to try to put the country on "the right path" in their perception.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 10:34 pm (UTC)

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oh, that makes sense for conservatives to believe those things. I find it pretty disturbing that she actually believes that he's a robot/evil though, especially since we aren't American, and I would say my mother at least seemed quite left wing..

The thing is, she believes that Obama is lying about what he's promising, and that he'll in fact "make things worse" for you guys. She told me that he's "passed laws allowing the government to arrest and detain innocent citizens" under the belief they are "terrorists". It all sounds like a load of paranoia induced by her visiting of numerous conspiracy websites and reading misguided information. I will never understand why she just believes this stuff without question or using any kind of internal judgment. If I was American, I would have voted for Obama, because the idea of someone against equal rights and with such shocking beliefs about women's bodies and rape being in power just gives me the creeps.
[User Picture]From: yesterdayanew
2012-11-11 11:00 pm (UTC)

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There could be other info/laws that I am unaware of but conservative president Bush I feel would fall under the "passed laws allowing the gov. to arrest and detain innocent citizens" more due to Guantanamo Bay. Obama hasn't fully lived up to his word to shut it down but he didn't start that shit.
[User Picture]From: lutine
2012-11-12 12:24 am (UTC)

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She told me that he's "passed laws allowing the government to arrest and detain innocent citizens" under the belief they are "terrorists"

Um, no, that was Bush.
[User Picture]From: archippus
2012-11-12 03:09 pm (UTC)

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[User Picture]From: saintwithasw0rd
2012-11-11 10:10 pm (UTC)

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A robot???? I have never heard of that.

But there is a small percentage of conservatives that believe he is evil incarnate, that he is a Muslim, that he isn't American, yada yada.

Obama. I don't want to go to war with Iran and social programs for the elderly, the disabled, and veterans are very important to me.
[User Picture]From: obfuscate
2012-11-11 10:11 pm (UTC)

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Not nearly as uncommon as it should be.
I didn't vote for either of them - I voted third party. I knew Obama would win my state, so I felt comfortable voting for someone whose ideals are more in line with mine, even though (and because) I knew she had no chance of actually winning.
[User Picture]From: zombiefruit
2012-11-11 10:22 pm (UTC)

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It seems to me that Obama would have brought all his terrible suffering during the first four years, since he had no guarantee that he would get a second chance.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 10:41 pm (UTC)

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That's exactly what I said to her, but all she would say was "Oh, wait and see what'll happen" in an ominous way. These conspiracy theory nuts really piss me off, even my own mother.
[User Picture]From: zombiefruit
2012-11-11 10:45 pm (UTC)

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Hahaha!

I would just start mocking her gently about it. My mother-in-law reads and believes the Daily Mail, so instead of becoming aggravated we just make fun of her a lot. She takes it in her stride, though.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-12 12:37 am (UTC)

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oh yeah, she reads the Daily Fail too. She tends to get quite defensive and preachy if you make fun of her for it, though.
[User Picture]From: zombiefruit
2012-11-12 08:35 am (UTC)

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They ran a gag article once about hamsters being ball-boys at Wimbledon, and she thought it was for real. Still laughing at her over it.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-12 05:08 pm (UTC)

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oh, god. Sometimes I wonder if my mother does this deliberately, or if she's just a gullible idiot/more small minded than she in fact lets on. They don't call them Daily Fail Readers for nothing..

Edited at 2012-11-12 05:08 pm (UTC)
[User Picture]From: lutine
2012-11-12 12:26 am (UTC)

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Of course he knew he'd get a second chance, DUH, he fixed the election!
[User Picture]From: zombiefruit
2012-11-12 08:36 am (UTC)

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With help from his little friend, Robot Bob the Builder.
[User Picture]From: thirdsouza
2012-11-11 10:22 pm (UTC)

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There are a lot of conspiracy theories about Obama. This is the first I've heard the robot theory, but there are people who believe he is secretly a muslim when he is a self proclaimed Christian, people who believe he was born in Kenya when he was born in Hawaii, then there are the people who believe he is the Anti-Christ, who usually also believe the two prior.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 10:43 pm (UTC)

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ugh, why do people spend their time believing this far-fetched bullshit. It's amusing to read about people like that, but it becomes less of a laughing matter when it's actually one of your parents :/
[User Picture]From: lutine
2012-11-12 12:25 am (UTC)

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I sympathize, both of my parents are like this as well.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-12 12:46 am (UTC)

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I'm sorry both your parents are like this :( it's bad enough having one parent seriously invested in this kind of crap. I think in my mother's case it's caused by a combination of: a serious fear of the unknown/"the devil", too much free time, a job that isn't intellectually stimulating, an unfulfilling relationship with my father, her gullibility and love/blind trust of authority as well as seemingly "official" information. She doesn't seem to realize that any old random Joe Public can make a Youtube video or a website, and can fill it with whatever crackpot information they wish, or believe will garner them the most attention.

I swear some people would be better off limiting their use of the internet to emails, Skype and cat videos.
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[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 10:47 pm (UTC)

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I guess that's true. I just wish my mother would check her facts before believing that shit. She spends her free time watching these nutty videos on Youtube and believing them to be the honest-to-God truth. She's impossible to convince otherwise, which is incredibly frustrating because it's just like "Can't you hear how incredibly far-fetched these things you believe are?!"
[User Picture]From: x3_molly
2012-11-11 10:40 pm (UTC)

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I have never heard that Obama being a robot shit, but it makes me laugh actually in ridiculousness? Haha.

I voted for Obama.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-11 11:42 pm (UTC)

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I know, it's so ludicrous! Apparently there's some conspiracy site where they post pictures of him "smiling an identical smile" in every picture. This can only mean he's a robot, of course. smfh at some people
[User Picture]From: sister_anne
2012-11-11 10:41 pm (UTC)

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The view that Obama is a robot is definitely uncommon, but the view that he's evil and will cause suffering is not. The view that Romney is evil and would have caused suffering if he had won is not uncommon, either.

I voted for Jill Stein.
[User Picture]From: boomboxrobot
2012-11-11 11:20 pm (UTC)

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lmao I have never heard the "Obama is a robot" theory
[User Picture]From: 911pleasehold
2012-11-11 11:55 pm (UTC)

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Obama has some of the staunchest detractors I've ever heard, and their criticism of him is much different from any other political criticism I've ever heard. You just generally don't hear politicians referred to as the antichrist. Nor do politicians generally have so many conspiracy theorists obsessed with their birth place, college records, etc. It just seems like no one will rest until they find out that YES he is a Kenyan citizen that practices Islam.

I voted for Obama. I might have considered voting for Romney if he hadn't put on the whole "I'm so conservative, Obamacare sucks so much" thing. Maybe if he'd ran on the platform he had in like...2003, I'd consider it.

Edited at 2012-11-11 11:55 pm (UTC)
[User Picture]From: jejuneraccoon
2012-11-12 12:22 am (UTC)

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Haha, I haven't heard the robot thing. You should ask her when she thinks he, C-3PO and Rosey the robot maid plan their uprising.
[User Picture]From: firerosearien
2012-11-12 01:07 am (UTC)

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1) There are a lot of people who dislike Obama. Some are reasonable; some are not.

2) Obama, because I have utterly no faith Romney would be better, and because the official Republican platform codifies homophobia.
[User Picture]From: torchic44
2012-11-12 01:14 am (UTC)

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Obama a robot? That's new to me. Still, he seems human to me :P
Seriously, I think your mother doesn't seem fond of Obama at all. I think her view is a rare one (but it is out there though).

I voted for Obama. I just didn't have any good vibes from Romney.
[User Picture]From: earthbunny
2012-11-12 02:02 am (UTC)

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Having been exposed to much political drama growing up, I've found that most politicians only care about getting re-elected. They'll promise you anything to win your vote and when they win they could care less about the peoples needs. From the moment I heard Obama was running for president years ago, I've had a very uneasy feeling about him. It's hard to explain or place, just gives me the creeps. I'm not overly fond of Romney either. I agreed with a lot Romney stood for, some not so much. But I've yet to see Obama do anything useful aside from running his mouth. Empty promises and a lot of hot air.
[User Picture]From: alexi_lupin
2012-11-12 02:30 am (UTC)

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If either of them was a robot it was clearly Romney.
[User Picture]From: awfulbliss
2012-11-12 02:57 am (UTC)

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She's right. Reagan Hologram '16.

Edited at 2012-11-12 02:57 am (UTC)
[User Picture]From: vodkabeforenoon
2012-11-12 03:08 am (UTC)

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Obama as a robot made me think of this:



I think some politicians come off sounding like a puppet...but not Obama.

Edited at 2012-11-12 03:09 am (UTC)
[User Picture]From: running_jumping
2012-11-12 05:39 am (UTC)

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I wonder who else is a robot...
[User Picture]From: disorderata
2012-11-12 05:48 am (UTC)

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I don't vote and certainly am not an american citizen, but you know... There's something about Obama that got him re-elected and it's certainly not what he's done for the country or his performance given the circumstances.
[User Picture]From: emptysilentlife
2012-11-12 06:15 am (UTC)

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Oh my god what? Your mom does not think Obama is a robot. She does not. I can't even, this is just too hilarious haha.
[User Picture]From: darkgreylenses
2012-11-12 08:24 pm (UTC)

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She seems to. It's fucking ridiculous.
[User Picture]From: hereisfar
2012-11-12 06:25 am (UTC)

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I voted for the robot because why would I vote for a Mormon business man when I could vote for a FUCKING ROBOT?!!!
[User Picture]From: monotonousglory
2012-11-12 10:48 am (UTC)

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that sounds bizzaro. i'm not american but i would've voted obama in a split second, and not worried that he would eat my grandma and show me what big teeth he has etc.
[User Picture]From: mr_sadhead
2012-11-12 03:57 pm (UTC)

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There's some great disinformation out there about the man. I heard a bus loony talking about how Obamacare is going to force us all to get RFID chip implants which we will use in place of money and which can be used to track and imprison dissenters. Some people believe FEMA is building camps to house the prisoners. But see, it's the same story they've been telling since Nixon was alleged to be constructing "Camp Reagan" in the California desert for hippies. It's just changed polarity. I voted Obama because he still seems the smartest guy in the room.